Comments for Golden Age of Detective Fiction Forum http://gadetection.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:22:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-309 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:22:23 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-309 Well, Mike, the aesthetic has changed. It doesn't mean that Van Dine now is a bad writer, just that the way people make judgments about these things has changed. Certainly an admirer of Van Dine can take consolation in the fact that Van Dine was fantastically popular for a few years, a rage of the twenties, like the foxtrot or swallowing goldfish. And I think the idea of his collapse has been somewhat exaggerated. Obviously Van Dine's personal story was pretty disastrous, but I think that the later books up through Kidnap at least are by no means the artistic disasters Symons makes them out to be. Van Dine had a good deal of formal skill as a mystery constructor that never left him. As for the changes, I don't believe Philo, like Reggie Fortune, translates very well today. I think too that on the whole the books lack the amazing cleverness of, say, Carr or Queen (though Queen is out of print too and Carr was last reprinted in the 90s, I believe, so maybe the problem extends way beyond Van Dine!). Curt Well, Mike, the aesthetic has changed. It doesn’t mean that Van Dine now is a bad writer, just that the way people make judgments about these things has changed. Certainly an admirer of Van Dine can take consolation in the fact that Van Dine was fantastically popular for a few years, a rage of the twenties, like the foxtrot or swallowing goldfish. And I think the idea of his collapse has been somewhat exaggerated. Obviously Van Dine’s personal story was pretty disastrous, but I think that the later books up through Kidnap at least are by no means the artistic disasters Symons makes them out to be. Van Dine had a good deal of formal skill as a mystery constructor that never left him.

As for the changes, I don’t believe Philo, like Reggie Fortune, translates very well today. I think too that on the whole the books lack the amazing cleverness of, say, Carr or Queen (though Queen is out of print too and Carr was last reprinted in the 90s, I believe, so maybe the problem extends way beyond Van Dine!).

Curt

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-308 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:21:39 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-308 Henrique, Thanks for the description. I have still never read this and Scarab and was wondering if I should bother with it. I read that the book and the film (Gracie Allen Murder case) were "flops," so, if so, the experiment doesn't seem to have worked out well. It may have sent the message that if Van Dine didn't take his creation seriously, why should his audience? In a 1938 article Van Dine is bracketed with Dorothy Sayers, Dashiell Hammett and Agatha Christie as belonging to the group of the most popular authors of mysteries: those selling over 10,000 copies per title in the United States. He is said at that time to have averaged 30,000 copies sold per title since Benson. However, since we know that both Greene and Bishop were the #4 bestsellers of their years in the US, we can assume that those earlier books sold on average a good deal over 30,000. Say the first five books sold 250,000 copies, that would be an average of 50,000 sold per title. That would mean the next five would have sold around 10,000 a title, for a total of 50,000 copies. So Van Dine in the thirties would have been trying to live his lavish lifestyle off, say, a fifth of the book income he had been enjoying in the 1920s (I'm assuming the $2 for a hardcover book was steady over the period). 10 books averaging 30,000 copies each equals 300,000 copies 5 books averaging 50,000 copies each equals 250,000 copies 5 books averaging 10,000 copies each equals 50,000 copies This would be a big come-down for Van Dine, but it would still put him in the upper echelon of mystery sellers. In those days most of the book reading public did not consider a mystery novel something to purchase; it was something to be borrowed from a rental or public library. This is why so many of these books are so rare today (the library copies were eventually read until they were worn out and incinerated as waste). Two thirds of the books published by the Crime Club in the US sold from 2000 to 6000 copies, so a title selling 10,000 would have been at the very high end. Dorothy Sayers' Murder Must Advertise sold only 9000 copies, but after the success of Gaudy Night she was able to double her readers with Busman's Honeymoon, selling 20,000 copies in the US. If Van Dine was still selling 10,000 copies a title in the US in the 1930s that would have been very respectable (though not enough to support the second wife, penthouse apartments, pedigree scotties, exotic tropical fish, horse race betting, etc.). It would be more accurate to say not that Van Dine now was unpopular and unread, in that case, but that he had lost his briefly-held dominant, "colossus" status from the 1926-30 period. But Van Dine's status in that period was something really exceptional in the Golden Age. Curt Henrique, Thanks for the description. I have still never read this and Scarab and was wondering if I should bother with it. I read that the book and the film (Gracie Allen Murder case) were “flops,” so, if so, the experiment doesn’t seem to have worked out well. It may have sent the message that if Van Dine didn’t take his creation seriously, why should his audience?

In a 1938 article Van Dine is bracketed with Dorothy Sayers, Dashiell Hammett and Agatha Christie as belonging to the group of the most popular authors of mysteries: those selling over 10,000 copies per title in the United States. He is said at that time to have averaged 30,000 copies sold per title since Benson. However, since we know that both Greene and Bishop were the #4 bestsellers of their years in the US, we can assume that those earlier books sold on average a good deal over 30,000. Say the first five books sold 250,000 copies, that would be an average of 50,000 sold per title. That would mean the next five would have sold around 10,000 a title, for a total of 50,000 copies. So Van Dine in the thirties would have been trying to live his lavish lifestyle off, say, a fifth of the book income he had been enjoying in the 1920s (I’m assuming the $2 for a hardcover book was steady over the period).

10 books averaging 30,000 copies each equals 300,000 copies
5 books averaging 50,000 copies each equals 250,000 copies
5 books averaging 10,000 copies each equals 50,000 copies

This would be a big come-down for Van Dine, but it would still put him in the upper echelon of mystery sellers. In those days most of the book reading public did not consider a mystery novel something to purchase; it was something to be borrowed from a rental or public library. This is why so many of these books are so rare today (the library copies were eventually read until they were worn out and incinerated as waste). Two thirds of the books published by the Crime Club in the US sold from 2000 to 6000 copies, so a title selling 10,000 would have been at the very high end. Dorothy Sayers’ Murder Must Advertise sold only 9000 copies, but after the success of Gaudy Night she was able to double her readers with Busman’s Honeymoon, selling 20,000 copies in the US. If Van Dine was still selling 10,000 copies a title in the US in the 1930s that would have been very respectable (though not enough to support the second wife, penthouse apartments, pedigree scotties, exotic tropical fish, horse race betting, etc.). It would be more accurate to say not that Van Dine now was unpopular and unread, in that case, but that he had lost his briefly-held dominant, “colossus” status from the 1926-30 period. But Van Dine’s status in that period was something really exceptional in the Golden Age.

Curt

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-307 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:21:06 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-307 Curt, The plot is not bad but thin and somewhat commonplace. The book begins with DA Markham under menace of an escaped convict. Vance then casually encounters Gracie Allen during a countryside walk. The two threads are linked when Gracies's brother is found murdered in a surveilled room inside a gangster-infested restaurant where the police were hoping to find the escaped convict. Things get complicated because Gracie herself was having dinner at the same restaurant, as well as two of her suitors. A cigarette case belonging to one of them is found with the murdered man. This takes almost half of the book, so you can see the pace is really leisurely, but Van Dine manages to make it seem much livelier by relying heavily on dialogue. There aren´t many clues, and both investigation and solution are unremarkable. My main problem with this book is precisely the Gracie Allen stunt. The plot device used to pop her into the story is contrived and Vance's behaviour towards her is out of character; her intrusion upsets the whole equilibrium of Vance's universe and paradoxically exposes its intrinsic irrealism. Other problem is that she looks, acts and speaks exactly like Gracie Allen the actress, but in fact she is Gracie Allen, worker at a cosmetics manufacturer, whose brother gets killed and whose family is introduced to the reader. It looks like Van Dine was giving a broad hint to the movie industry: "Hey, wouldn't it be nice to film this with Gracie Allen as the lead?". I imagine it must have been a good way of assuring the film rights would be selled -- as if a waning Dan Brown would write The Hugh Grant Connection, in which an awkward young flower-shop assistant called Hugh Grant would find himself in the middle of a Rosicrucian conspiracy. However, Gracie Allen may work as a rage-deflector -- her lines are so preposterous that Vance's detractors will find him less irritating. Anyway, the book is a good read if you don't mind Vance (I don't). I've just checked it and I found Van Dine's prose remarkably clear and direct, much more than in the earlier books. As usual in Van Dine, each character speaks with his/her own voice (this is a very rare quality even among mainstream writers) and the dialogue is effective. It *doesn't* start by a mention of the spectacular nature of the case (in fact, quite the opposite). Almost no footnotes. Henrique Curt,

The plot is not bad but thin and somewhat commonplace. The book begins with DA Markham under menace of an escaped convict. Vance then casually encounters Gracie Allen during a countryside walk. The two threads are linked when Gracies’s brother is found murdered in a surveilled room inside a gangster-infested restaurant where the police were hoping to find the escaped convict. Things get complicated because Gracie herself was having dinner at the same restaurant, as well as two of her suitors. A cigarette case belonging to one of them is found with the murdered man. This takes almost half of the book, so you can see the pace is really leisurely, but Van Dine manages to make it seem much livelier by relying heavily on dialogue. There aren´t many clues, and both investigation and solution are unremarkable.

My main problem with this book is precisely the Gracie Allen stunt. The plot device used to pop her into the story is contrived and Vance’s behaviour towards her is out of character; her intrusion upsets the whole equilibrium of Vance’s universe and paradoxically exposes its intrinsic irrealism. Other problem is that she looks, acts and speaks exactly like Gracie Allen the actress, but in fact she is Gracie Allen, worker at a cosmetics manufacturer, whose brother gets killed and whose family is introduced to the reader. It looks like Van Dine was giving a broad hint to the movie industry: “Hey, wouldn’t it be nice to film this with Gracie Allen as the lead?”. I imagine it must have been a good way of assuring the film rights would be selled — as if a waning Dan Brown would write The Hugh Grant Connection, in which an awkward young flower-shop assistant called Hugh Grant would find himself in the middle of a Rosicrucian conspiracy. However, Gracie Allen
may work as a rage-deflector — her lines are so preposterous that Vance’s detractors will find him less irritating.

Anyway, the book is a good read if you don’t mind Vance (I don’t). I’ve just checked it and I found Van Dine’s prose remarkably clear and direct, much more than in the earlier books. As usual in Van Dine, each character speaks with his/her own voice (this is a very rare quality even among mainstream writers) and the dialogue is effective. It *doesn’t* start by a mention of the spectacular nature of the case (in fact, quite the opposite). Almost no footnotes.

Henrique

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-306 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:19:45 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-306 I have "The Gracie Allen Murder Case" under its reprint title of "The Smell of Murder". Here's what the copy on the back says:" It isn't funny ..not when a lovely young lady messes with a fortune teller who dabbles in blackmail.. .with an escaped convict who has nothing to lose but his life... & with the boss of a widespread crime ring , as clever as he is cold-blooded... & certainly not when a corpse , carrying the wrong cigarettes & wearing the wrong perfume, drags the young lady smack into the middle of a big-town mob slaying. Philo Vance at his cleverst... Gracie Allen at her gayest... in this spine-tingling murder mystery."An interesting curiosity - written at the height of Gracie Allen's popularity, if you can imagine Philo Vance taking a backseat to Gracie Allen!! I understand it was filmed in 1939. Has anyone ever seen this film ??. I have “The Gracie Allen Murder Case” under its reprint title of “The
Smell of Murder”. Here’s what the copy on the back says:” It isn’t funny ..not
when a lovely young lady messes with a fortune teller who dabbles in
blackmail.. .with an escaped convict who has nothing to lose but his life… & with
the boss of a widespread crime ring , as clever as he is cold-blooded… &
certainly not when a corpse , carrying the wrong cigarettes & wearing the
wrong perfume, drags the young lady smack into the middle of a big-town mob
slaying. Philo Vance at his cleverst… Gracie Allen at her gayest… in this
spine-tingling murder mystery.”An interesting curiosity – written at the
height of Gracie Allen’s popularity, if you can imagine Philo Vance taking a
backseat to Gracie Allen!! I understand it was filmed in 1939. Has anyone ever
seen this film ??.

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-305 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:19:12 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-305 The following is taken from the back of the first edition of The Dragon Murder Case (Scribner's, 1933). It would be fascinating to compare these reviews with those from the second set of six (Dragon - Winter). Can anyone oblige? Nick ASHEVILLE TIMES The “Canary” Murder Case “It comes as near perfection as it has been my pleasure to find in any such work. An extraordinarily fine specimen of its kind.” The Bishop Murder Case “Every whit as good and as captivating as its predecessors, and if it be not better, that is only because those earlier ones had reached a level hard to surpass… Perfect in conception, structure, and execution.” (Edwin Björkman) EDWIN BJÖRKMAN The Greene Murder Case “One of the most cleverly conceived and executed detective novels ever produced.” BIRMINGHAM MAIL The Benson Murder Case “A book which is a pleasure to read from a literary point of view as well as for its story.” BOOK-OF-THE-MONTH CLUB NEWS The Scarab Murder Case “Certainly one of the best of Mr. Van Dine’s detective yarns; perhaps the best so far.” The Kennel Murder Case “Quite one of the best of the well-known series… In the mid-winter harvest of detective stories Mr. Van Dine’s ingenious tale is distinguished for close vivid reasoning and will be acceptable to all seasoned readers.” (Christopher Morley) THE BOOKMAN The “Canary” Murder Case “Essentially he has struck a rich vein… The method of eduction is fresh and the incidents are exciting.” (Gilbert Seldes) BOSTON TRANSCRIPT The Greene Murder Case “Once again S.S. Van Dine has written a detective story that is inimitable and a joy to read. Let it be shouted from the housetops that here is a fine mystery story. And it is written, footnotes and all, as only Mr. Van Dine can write, with characters as he alone can imagine.” The Kennel Murder Case “For the sixth time S.S. Van Dine has come, and for the sixth time S.S. Van Dine has conquered.” BUFFALO TIMES The “Canary” Murder Case “The perfect type of detective story. This book deserves rank with the best in this field at any time. The story has so many excellencies one is embarrassed to know which to mention first.” CHICAGO POST The “Canary” Murder Case “Those of us who have hitherto considered the novel of crime and mystery solely as a source of surcease in a dull or troubled hour, may, after reading Mr. Van Dine’s new story, be willing to admit that the writing of such a novel can be raised to high art.” (Robert John Bayer) EDINBURGH SCOTSMAN The “Canary” Murder Case “Reflects every credit upon its author’s skill in inventing an enjoyable detective story.” GLOBE-DEMOCRAT (St. Louis) The Benson Murder Case “Among the best of its kind. The reader will be thrillingly interested in all the details.” HULL EASTERN MORNING NEWS The “Canary” Murder Case “Philo Vance will rank as one of the great detectives of fiction.” LIVERPOOL POST AND MERCURY The Greene Murder Case “Mr. S.S. Van Dine is one of the most ingenious of detective-story writers…a master at the game.” LONDON DAILY MAIL The “Canary” Murder Case “Well above the average of detective stories; technically it is almost flawless.” LONDON DAILY NEWS The “Canary” Murder Case “The affair is so well worked out, so coherently, tidily, imaginatively, and ingeniously, that Mr. Van Dine deserves almost every compliment.” (Rose Macaulay) LONDON SPHERE The “Canary” Murder Case “A model of everything a detective story should be—a monument, a cathedral amongst detective stories.” (Arnold Palmer) The Greene Murder Case “S.S. Van Dine, an American, is the best living writer of detective fiction.” (Arnold Palmer) The Bishop Murder Case “The author of The ‘Canary’ Murder Case has already drawn from me most of my superlatives. But The Bishop Murder Case has an added quality of horror… The execution is faultless, and the ratiocination is faultless too.” MILWAUKEE JOURNAL The Kennel Murder Case “The best since The “Canary” Murder Case.” MINNEAPOLIS JOURNAL The Bishop Murder Case “Has all of Van Dine’s other ‘murder cases’ beaten completely.” NATION AND ATHENÆUM The Greene Murder Case “My favourite detective writer. His new book is flawless. This is the best detective story I have read this year.” (Raymond Mortimer) NEW STATESMAN The Greene Murder Case “Extraordinarily ingenious… Rarely do we have a chance of recommending a book of this class with so much confidence.” NEW YORK EVENING POST The Greene Murder Case “S.S. Van Dine is far and away the mos skilful deviser of shuddering, mystifying, and plausible tales of murder now thrilling the spine of a nation.” (Bruce Gould) NEW YORK HERALD TRIBUNE The Bishop Murder Case “A thriller worth reading for its lucidity, suspense, legitimate mystery, and miscellaneous entertainment.” The Scarab Murder Case Mr. Van Dine has never written a better detective tale.” (Will Cuppy) The Kennel Murder Case “One of those drop-everything mysteries—you’ve got to read it whether you have time or not… Contains all those virtues which have made the Van Dine brand famous throughout the habitable globe.” (Will Cuppy) NEW YORK SUN The Greene Murder Case “One of the best mystery novels published in recent years… Read the book, marvel, and be enthralled.” NEW YORK TIMES The Greene Murder Case “A more ingenious series of murders than those related in this book would be difficult to imagine, and the steps which Philo Vance takes to solve the mystery are equally ingenious.” NEW YORK WORLD The “Canary” Murder Case “Not only a rattling good yarn that holds you to the end—it’s an education in itself… Belongs to the aristocracy of detective fiction.” (Harry Hansen) NEWS (Buffalo) The Benson Murder Case “A very nearly perfect mystery story which can be placed with the masterpieces of its kind… Positively, we feel inclined to place this in the first fifteen or twenty or even less of the very best crime stories which have been produced.” NEWS (Detroit) The Benson Murder Case “A detective story that is really different. Not only a detective story, but literature, also.” NOTTINGHAM GUARDIAN The Bishop Murder Case “In subtlety and ingenuity this American author’s work is unexcelled… The Bishop Murder Case is an extraordinary, closely knit story of crime upon crime and suspicion upon suspicion. The unravelling of the tangle by Philo Vance is related with consummate skill.” THE OUTLOOK (London) The Benson Murder Case “Will put Vance high in the respect, if not the affection, of connoisseurs.” THE OUTLOOK (New York) The Benson Murder Case “An engrossing mystery tale.” The Scarab Murder Case “The best story we have yet read by Mr. Van Dine.” (Walter R. Brooks) WILLIAM LYON PHELPS The Benson Murder Case “One of the best detective stories I have ever read.” The “Canary” Murder Case “One of the most ingenious and chilling tales of crime that I have seen. Philo Vance is an original and fascinating person.” PHILADELPHIA PUBLIC LEDGER The Bishop Murder Case “The ne plus ultra of modern detective stories… Has the movement and emphasis of a twentieth-century limited… Gird yourself for a stormy and utterly compelling yarn.” The Scarab Murder Case “The Van Dine mysteries are the best of this overstocked day, the best by a large margin. And they are better each year.” (Walter Yust) The Kennel Murder Case “The star murder mystery of the season.” PHILADELPHIA RECORD The Benson Murder Case “In workmanship and interest one of the outstanding mystery tales of the last two years.” The Kennel Murder Case “Has unquestionably the finest plot situation of the six Van Dine novels.” PORTLAND EXPRESS The Scarab Murder Case “His latest book is, by far, his best.” PUNCH The Bishop Murder Case “Both in construction and for exciting incident it is really remarkable.” ST. PAUL DISPATCH The Scarab Murder Case “Far the best mystery story of the year… The Scarab Murder Case is the best of its kind.” SAN FRANCISCO NEWS The Kennel Murder Case “The Kennel Murder Case, by S.S. Van Dine, is the best modern detective novel this reviewer has ever read.” SATURDAY EVENING POST The Kennel Murder Case “The Kennel Murder Case is another highly entertaining exploit of Philo Vance. I believe S.S. Van Dine still to be, on all accounts, one of the best of mystery-yarn spinners. His new book gives no reason for a change of opinion.” SATURDAY REVIEW OF LITERATURE The Scarab Murder Case “Not only his best but…very close to the top of all detective stories… A joy to read and ranks number one in the season’s mysteries.” (Eugene Reynal) SAVANNAH NEWS The Scarab Murder Case “Far and away the best of the Van Dine Murder Cases.” THE SCOTS OBSERVER The Benson Murder Case “Full of the unexpected and remarkably well told. An original detective story of very high order.” SPRINGFIELD REPUBLICAN The Benson Murder Case “The story is absorbing in interest, pushing steadily to its surprising climax and revealing Philo Vance as a new and delightful member of the little coterie in which Sherlock Holmes is the most familiar name.” The Scarab Murder Case “S.S. Van Dine is at his best in The Scarab Murder Case.” SUSSEX DAILY NEWS The Benson Murder Case “Seldom has one been so captivated by a murder case which really does thrill.” TIMES LITERARY SUPPLEMENT The Benson Murder Case “Philo Vance is a real addition to the great company of amateur detectives.’ The Bishop Murder Case “The murders are all carefully and, for the most part, neatly committed. Mr. Van Dine makes a fine and well-sustained mystery out of it all.” The following is taken from the back of the first edition of The Dragon Murder Case (Scribner’s, 1933). It would be fascinating to compare these reviews with those from the second set of six (Dragon – Winter). Can anyone oblige?

Nick

ASHEVILLE TIMES
The “Canary” Murder Case
“It comes as near perfection as it has been my pleasure to find in any such work. An extraordinarily fine specimen of its kind.”

The Bishop Murder Case
“Every whit as good and as captivating as its predecessors, and if it be not better, that is only because those earlier ones had reached a level hard to surpass… Perfect in conception, structure, and execution.” (Edwin Björkman)

EDWIN BJÖRKMAN
The Greene Murder Case
“One of the most cleverly conceived and executed detective novels ever produced.”

BIRMINGHAM MAIL
The Benson Murder Case
“A book which is a pleasure to read from a literary point of view as well as for its story.”

BOOK-OF-THE-MONTH CLUB NEWS
The Scarab Murder Case
“Certainly one of the best of Mr. Van Dine’s detective yarns; perhaps the best so far.”

The Kennel Murder Case
“Quite one of the best of the well-known series… In the mid-winter harvest of detective stories Mr. Van Dine’s ingenious tale is distinguished for close vivid reasoning and will be acceptable to all seasoned readers.” (Christopher Morley)

THE BOOKMAN
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Essentially he has struck a rich vein… The method of eduction is fresh and the incidents are exciting.” (Gilbert Seldes)

BOSTON TRANSCRIPT
The Greene Murder Case
“Once again S.S. Van Dine has written a detective story that is inimitable and a joy to read. Let it be shouted from the housetops that here is a fine mystery story. And it is written, footnotes and all, as only Mr. Van Dine can write, with characters as he alone can imagine.”

The Kennel Murder Case
“For the sixth time S.S. Van Dine has come, and for the sixth time S.S. Van Dine has conquered.”

BUFFALO TIMES
The “Canary” Murder Case
“The perfect type of detective story. This book deserves rank with the best in this field at any time. The story has so many excellencies one is embarrassed to know which to mention first.”

CHICAGO POST
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Those of us who have hitherto considered the novel of crime and mystery solely as a source of surcease in a dull or troubled hour, may, after reading Mr. Van Dine’s new story, be willing to admit that the writing of such a novel can be raised to high art.” (Robert John Bayer)

EDINBURGH SCOTSMAN
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Reflects every credit upon its author’s skill in inventing an enjoyable detective story.”

GLOBE-DEMOCRAT (St. Louis)
The Benson Murder Case
“Among the best of its kind. The reader will be thrillingly interested in all the details.”

HULL EASTERN MORNING NEWS
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Philo Vance will rank as one of the great detectives of fiction.”

LIVERPOOL POST AND MERCURY
The Greene Murder Case
“Mr. S.S. Van Dine is one of the most ingenious of detective-story writers…a master at the game.”

LONDON DAILY MAIL
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Well above the average of detective stories; technically it is almost flawless.”

LONDON DAILY NEWS
The “Canary” Murder Case
“The affair is so well worked out, so coherently, tidily, imaginatively, and ingeniously, that Mr. Van Dine deserves almost every compliment.” (Rose Macaulay)

LONDON SPHERE
The “Canary” Murder Case
“A model of everything a detective story should be—a monument, a cathedral amongst detective stories.” (Arnold Palmer)

The Greene Murder Case
“S.S. Van Dine, an American, is the best living writer of detective fiction.” (Arnold Palmer)

The Bishop Murder Case
“The author of The ‘Canary’ Murder Case has already drawn from me most of my superlatives. But The Bishop Murder Case has an added quality of horror… The execution is faultless, and the ratiocination is faultless too.”

MILWAUKEE JOURNAL
The Kennel Murder Case
“The best since The “Canary” Murder Case.”

MINNEAPOLIS JOURNAL
The Bishop Murder Case
“Has all of Van Dine’s other ‘murder cases’ beaten completely.”

NATION AND ATHENÆUM
The Greene Murder Case
“My favourite detective writer. His new book is flawless. This is the best detective story I have read this year.” (Raymond Mortimer)

NEW STATESMAN
The Greene Murder Case
“Extraordinarily ingenious… Rarely do we have a chance of recommending a book of this class with so much confidence.”

NEW YORK EVENING POST
The Greene Murder Case
“S.S. Van Dine is far and away the mos skilful deviser of shuddering, mystifying, and plausible tales of murder now thrilling the spine of a nation.” (Bruce Gould)

NEW YORK HERALD TRIBUNE
The Bishop Murder Case
“A thriller worth reading for its lucidity, suspense, legitimate mystery, and miscellaneous entertainment.”

The Scarab Murder Case
Mr. Van Dine has never written a better detective tale.” (Will Cuppy)

The Kennel Murder Case
“One of those drop-everything mysteries—you’ve got to read it whether you have time or not… Contains all those virtues which have made the Van Dine brand famous throughout the habitable globe.” (Will Cuppy)

NEW YORK SUN
The Greene Murder Case
“One of the best mystery novels published in recent years… Read the book, marvel, and be enthralled.”

NEW YORK TIMES
The Greene Murder Case
“A more ingenious series of murders than those related in this book would be difficult to imagine, and the steps which Philo Vance takes to solve the mystery are equally ingenious.”

NEW YORK WORLD
The “Canary” Murder Case
“Not only a rattling good yarn that holds you to the end—it’s an education in itself… Belongs to the aristocracy of detective fiction.” (Harry Hansen)

NEWS (Buffalo)
The Benson Murder Case
“A very nearly perfect mystery story which can be placed with the masterpieces of its kind… Positively, we feel inclined to place this in the first fifteen or twenty or even less of the very best crime stories which have been produced.”

NEWS (Detroit)
The Benson Murder Case
“A detective story that is really different. Not only a detective story, but literature, also.”

NOTTINGHAM GUARDIAN
The Bishop Murder Case
“In subtlety and ingenuity this American author’s work is unexcelled… The Bishop Murder Case is an extraordinary, closely knit story of crime upon crime and suspicion upon suspicion. The unravelling of the tangle by Philo Vance is related with consummate skill.”

THE OUTLOOK (London)
The Benson Murder Case
“Will put Vance high in the respect, if not the affection, of connoisseurs.”

THE OUTLOOK (New York)
The Benson Murder Case
“An engrossing mystery tale.”

The Scarab Murder Case
“The best story we have yet read by Mr. Van Dine.” (Walter R. Brooks)

WILLIAM LYON PHELPS
The Benson Murder Case
“One of the best detective stories I have ever read.”

The “Canary” Murder Case
“One of the most ingenious and chilling tales of crime that I have seen. Philo Vance is an original and fascinating person.”

PHILADELPHIA PUBLIC LEDGER
The Bishop Murder Case
“The ne plus ultra of modern detective stories… Has the movement and emphasis of a twentieth-century limited… Gird yourself for a stormy and utterly compelling yarn.”

The Scarab Murder Case
“The Van Dine mysteries are the best of this overstocked day, the best by a large margin. And they are better each year.” (Walter Yust)

The Kennel Murder Case
“The star murder mystery of the season.”

PHILADELPHIA RECORD
The Benson Murder Case
“In workmanship and interest one of the outstanding mystery tales of the last two years.”

The Kennel Murder Case
“Has unquestionably the finest plot situation of the six Van Dine novels.”

PORTLAND EXPRESS
The Scarab Murder Case
“His latest book is, by far, his best.”

PUNCH
The Bishop Murder Case
“Both in construction and for exciting incident it is really remarkable.”

ST. PAUL DISPATCH
The Scarab Murder Case
“Far the best mystery story of the year… The Scarab Murder Case is the best of its kind.”

SAN FRANCISCO NEWS
The Kennel Murder Case
“The Kennel Murder Case, by S.S. Van Dine, is the best modern detective novel this reviewer has ever read.”

SATURDAY EVENING POST
The Kennel Murder Case
“The Kennel Murder Case is another highly entertaining exploit of Philo Vance. I believe S.S. Van Dine still to be, on all accounts, one of the best of mystery-yarn spinners. His new book gives no reason for a change of opinion.”

SATURDAY REVIEW OF LITERATURE
The Scarab Murder Case
“Not only his best but…very close to the top of all detective stories… A joy to read and ranks number one in the season’s mysteries.” (Eugene Reynal)

SAVANNAH NEWS
The Scarab Murder Case
“Far and away the best of the Van Dine Murder Cases.”

THE SCOTS OBSERVER
The Benson Murder Case
“Full of the unexpected and remarkably well told. An original detective story of very high order.”

SPRINGFIELD REPUBLICAN
The Benson Murder Case
“The story is absorbing in interest, pushing steadily to its surprising climax and revealing Philo Vance as a new and delightful member of the little coterie in which Sherlock Holmes is the most familiar name.”

The Scarab Murder Case
“S.S. Van Dine is at his best in The Scarab Murder Case.”

SUSSEX DAILY NEWS
The Benson Murder Case
“Seldom has one been so captivated by a murder case which really does thrill.”

TIMES LITERARY SUPPLEMENT
The Benson Murder Case
“Philo Vance is a real addition to the great company of amateur detectives.’

The Bishop Murder Case
“The murders are all carefully and, for the most part, neatly committed. Mr. Van Dine makes a fine and well-sustained mystery out of it all.”

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-304 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:18:23 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-304 >From memory, Scarab and Kennel have some of the best in-depth detection in the Van Dine books - lots of clues, and a satisfyingly elaborate but clear plot. This is also what makes Queen's French Powder and Greek Coffin Mysteries great. Carr's romantic trappings - impossible murders apparently committed by supernatural forces - are a huge appeal, but I've been a devout Chestertonian since the age of ten! The Carrs I find disappointing are those of the 1950s which have been toned down too far. I think, though, that many of the 1940s books are excellent, both as detective stories and as stories - Carr's experience in writing radio plays meant that the post-1930s books are often constructed as dramatic scenes, with the clues revealed through dialogue. and the hero emotionally involved in the mystery. Nick >From memory, Scarab and Kennel have some of the best in-depth detection in the Van Dine books – lots of clues, and a satisfyingly elaborate but clear plot. This is also what makes Queen’s French Powder and Greek Coffin Mysteries great.

Carr’s romantic trappings – impossible murders apparently committed by supernatural forces – are a huge appeal, but I’ve been a devout Chestertonian since the age of ten! The Carrs I find disappointing are those of the 1950s which have been toned down too far. I think, though, that many of the 1940s books are excellent, both as detective stories and as stories – Carr’s experience in writing radio plays meant that the post-1930s books are often constructed as dramatic scenes, with the clues revealed through dialogue. and the hero emotionally involved in the mystery.

Nick

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-303 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:17:58 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-303 I am rereading Kennel and Casino and finding they hold up well. Kennel has a quite tricky plot, in contrast to many of his other ones, where you can deduce the murderer right off. In Benson, for example, the whole case it seems to me should have been solved very quickly, if the police had not been such boneheads. But they had to be so that smartypance Vance could show everyone his superiority with "psychological" methods. I think I now agree with Hammett on this one. Casino's poisonings seem quite interesting to me, I'm enjoying rereading it. I'll admit the less elaborate footnotes are fine by me. I find that kind of thing in Greene, Bishop, Scarab and Dragon rather tiresome, but I know a lot of people like it. Greene and Bishop are so fanciful they don't appeal to me too much anymore, though the situations are nice (and I love those maps). I reviewed Greene last year, where I went over some of my objections to it. I think I have become more of a realist in the last decade (at least surface realism). My favorite Queens and carrs too tend to be ones that are a bit more toned down (I liked Dutch Shoe better than Egyptian Cross, for example). Call it the Humdrum Effect! On the other hand when Queen tried to go completely realistic I think he just got boring. Curt I am rereading Kennel and Casino and finding they hold up well. Kennel has a quite tricky plot, in contrast to many of his other ones, where you can deduce the murderer right off. In Benson, for example, the whole case it seems to me should have been solved very quickly, if the police had not been such boneheads. But they had to be so that smartypance Vance could show everyone his superiority with “psychological” methods. I think I now agree with Hammett on this one.

Casino’s poisonings seem quite interesting to me, I’m enjoying rereading it. I’ll admit the less elaborate footnotes are fine by me. I find that kind of thing in Greene, Bishop, Scarab and Dragon rather tiresome, but I know a lot of people like it. Greene and Bishop are so fanciful they don’t appeal to me too much anymore, though the situations are nice (and I love those maps). I reviewed Greene last year, where I went over some of my objections to it. I think I have become more of a realist in the last decade (at least surface realism). My favorite Queens and carrs too tend to be ones that are a bit more toned down (I liked Dutch Shoe better than Egyptian Cross, for example). Call it the Humdrum Effect! On the other hand when Queen tried to go completely realistic I think he just got boring.

Curt

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-302 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:17:35 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-302 My last email has sent itself without warning. Sorry. The complete version: I like all the 12 Van Dines, but I find the first six clearly better. Van Dine has been reported as having said that no one could have more than six good detective novels in his head. Maybe he actually believed it. His first six novels are something new, in the second half-dozen he seems to have been recreating the earlier ones. Van Dine is at his best in the surreal (Greene, Bishop, Scarab) and the highly imaginative (Benson, Canary, Kennel). The later six novels are much more commonplace and artificial: the solution in Dragon seems contrived, the gangsters in Kidnap are unconvincing (although I find it hard to say they are out of place in 1920s New York; at least Van Dine can't be accused of setting his books in Neverland), Gracie Allen in Gracie Allen doesn't really fit in, Garden, Winter and Casino are much less memorable than any of the earlier six. I, too, would like to have some evidence that his popularity actually declined significantly in the thirties (his critical decline seems beyond dispute) . In many ways he was quite ahead of his time and his best novels were more an influence on thirties writers than influenced by twenties writers. Henrique My last email has sent itself without warning. Sorry. The complete version:

I like all the 12 Van Dines, but I find the first six clearly better. Van Dine has been reported as having said that no one could have more than six good detective novels in his head. Maybe he actually believed it. His first six novels are something new, in the second half-dozen he seems to have been recreating the earlier ones. Van Dine is at his best in the surreal (Greene, Bishop, Scarab) and the highly imaginative (Benson, Canary, Kennel). The later six novels are much more commonplace and artificial: the solution in Dragon seems contrived, the gangsters in Kidnap are unconvincing (although I find it hard to say they are out of place in 1920s New York; at least Van Dine can’t be accused of setting his books in Neverland), Gracie Allen in Gracie Allen doesn’t really fit in, Garden, Winter and Casino are much less memorable than any of the earlier six. I, too, would like to have some evidence that his popularity actually declined significantly in the
thirties (his critical decline seems beyond dispute) . In many ways he was quite ahead of his time and his best novels were more an influence on thirties writers than influenced by twenties writers.

Henrique

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-301 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:46 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-301 I like Van Dine's imposing prologues - they really set the tone, and raise the reader's expectations. Bailey often does something similar at the start of his stories - see, for instance, the opening of "The Broken Toad". Nick I like Van Dine’s imposing prologues – they really set the tone, and raise the
reader’s expectations. Bailey often does something similar at the start of his
stories – see, for instance, the opening of “The Broken Toad”.

Nick

]]> Comment on The Van Dine Decline and Fall Narrative by jonjermey http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-300 jonjermey Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:15:33 +0000 http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/the-van-dine-decline-and-fall-narrative/#comment-300 Yeah, and the Purple Murder Case became the Kidnap Murder Case (remember, it's the Purple House in the book). Hadn't heard of the others, is there a Linden in the Gracie case? One thing I love about Van Dine is that with each book he announces that this is the most horrifying, amazing, nerve-shattering, shocking case ever, just like the last one was! Curt Yeah, and the Purple Murder Case became the Kidnap Murder Case (remember, it’s
the Purple House in the book). Hadn’t heard of the others, is there a Linden in
the Gracie case?

One thing I love about Van Dine is that with each book he announces that this is
the most horrifying, amazing, nerve-shattering, shocking case ever, just like
the last one was!

Curt

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